First of all, I think it's a slap in the face to title the album 1:59PM, like, who's idea was that? You can call the group 2PM, when it's not because the leader isn't in the group, but you can call the album 1:59PM?
I don't understand why they used songs from their last mini-album, that's just messing with us fans who miss Jay deeply...but whatever. I'll post the songs and let you decide for yourself.
I Hate You (Lounge Mix)
Their title track: Heartbeat
I Was Crazy About You
Back 2 U
You Might Come Back (Bossa Nova Mix)
All Night Long
Gimme The Light
Wow, Khun starting a song, what a nice change.
JYP said these songs have never been done before, but I sense a huge American influence on the music style...but that's just me. I guess a majority of HOTTESTs will be protesting by refusing to by the album, and downloading it online instead. As long as protesting JYPE doesn't hurt 2PM, then I'm all for it. No matter what, 2PM still needs to get paid, but I wonder, doesn't their album sales and so forth determine how much they get paid? How will 2PM get paid without HOTTEST's support? I want to protest JYPE, but I don't want to risk hurting the 6 members' careers. I can't stress that enough. It's such a tough topic, no one is ever really sure of what to do. I fell in love with these boys 9 months ago, and I am so confused as to what I should do. It's not like I'm in Korea, so there's not much I can do to help the situation, all I can do is voice my opinion.
I mean, if you want to protest, then do so, but keep the rest of the guys in mind, not just Jay. Protest for Jay in a way to show him and the other boys, love. They are in as much pain, if not more, than we are. I can't wait to see their comeback performance, because I want to see how they will function without their leader, I want to see if they'll continue to express their love for Jay through subliminal messages, or just out right be open about it.
I feel bad for them, because the fans are in control of their careers, JYPE is in control of their careers. Who said they had choices? They really don't, I don't believe it was Jay's choice to leave, not for one second...whether he was really pressured by JYP or just from the hatred of those stupid netizens, I felt that he was left with no choice. And how can you live your life if you can't make your own choices, and you have to let others do so for you? What kind of life would that be?
I just hope the guys are happy, or at least trying to be, in their current situation. My heart goes out to them, and I will always support them, I just wish I knew how.
I have to admit, I like this one better, becaue you can clearly hear and distiguish who's who in this song, and I really like the strong piano in the music...Plus, I always look forward to how they will perform this. But this won't be a title track, it is included in their full-length album, which I am looking forward to. But it makes me so sad to hear these songs and not hear Jay at all...It's like, I can't even enjoy it. It just seems so unnatural for him to not be a part of the group.
I guess I miss him even more because I just finished watching Jay, Khun, and Taec on Sang Sang Plus with G.O.D. There's 7 clips, and it reminds me of what I loved most about Jay, never really understanding what's going on because he doesn't understand Korean too well...LOL
Video teasers for their album has been released, I'm guessin they have a song called Heartbeat, and the whole point is for the guys to talk about what makes their heart beat, and Taec was the only one who mentioned all 7 members...he is so sincere that it's obvious he misses Jay like we all do.
Speaking of, his birthday passed recently, and I forgot to post this with my earlier post...it's birthday wishes to Jay from the guys, and I just thought they were so touching so I wanted to share it. From 2OneDay:
Time really flies from trainees Hotblood days, debut till 2PM now. All of us have known one another for 3-5 years. Still remember the first time we met you. You're completely an American who doesn't know how to speak in Korean. Even now, your Korean is not that good. I believe you can do your best, right? Leader Hyung.
TAEC: Jay hyung! keke! I know you just don't like us stop calling you "hyung." Okay. Today I'll call you hyung more. In the past you just hate Hangul but I know you're trying your best now. Yes, I see you everyday but I just can't express what I wanted to tell you. Heh heh that's why I have decided to tell you here instead. Happy birthday Jay baby! A year older too! but I still love you! Stop acting cool and strong when you're not at times. But I can feel your sadness, just that you just don't share with any of us. Please stop it! Share with us! With me?
KHUN: Jay baby ~~~ lalala my baby~~hey stop acting strong! I'm glad to know you. Probably your English is better than your Korean lol that's why I can understand you better. Let's study Hangul, and I hope one day you can surpass me haha. Thanks for being such a great leader and helped us when we needed to. Please can we help each other? We love you!
WOOYOUNG: Hey hey hey yo! My birthday's coming but I'm still younger than you (cheeky smiles) you're sleeping on your bed now. I'm jealous. Why? I'm tired but I just want you to be happy and who don't love our mighty Jay? I'm going to join with you soon.
JUNHO: I envy you. You're so confident in your work. I've never seen you give up. Why are you so confident? Because of you, I'm getting stronger now. When I told you I've never slept on the bed before, without a word, you let me sleep in your big bed. You're so kind and a great leader. I respect and love you hyung.
JUNSU: Hey man! I'm trying to improve my English. What can I say about you, hyung? Your talented, charismatic and so much more. I like to sing with you again soon. How's your sleep now? Thumbs up, you're great!
CHANSUNG: I like to play with hyung. No one wants to play with me but it's really nice to play with you. You may sound angry sometimes but I know you are not serious. (laughs) Thanks hyung for so much. I love you hyunnie! May you dream us in your dreams now! Happy birthday.
CREDITS : HOTTEST FANCAFE, 2ONEDAY.COM
Only his friends could know him well enough to know how he's really doing, I like how the boys are so hopeful to see him again, to sing with him again...it just seems like he was vital in all their lives, that he's helped them all out in some way...It's just so sad. I really do hope they get Jay back, not just for us fans, but for the group as well. It's so obvious how much they miss him, and they always say they are one person, so how can the function if they're missing a body part? And Jay was their leader, so metaphorically, he's the head...How can anyone function without their head, that's not possible.
This is 6PM's latest single called Tired of Waiting. I know, it's a little weird to hear them without Jay's soulful, smooth voice, but I guess we just have to take what we can get. 2PM had to move on, it's their career too, not just Jay's, and I'm sure they're missing Jay every step of the way. We've seen what they went through during training, and that was just a snippet of what they actually did together, or how much they bonded...Just because they've moved forward without Jay, it doesn't mean they want to, or that they're not wishing he was performing beside them...after all, he was, and is their leader...I mean, who could possibly replace him?
I'm sure they appreciate the HOTTESTS' support, but being one myself, I think it's time to just support 2PM without Jay, because this is not just about Jay. Jay's career was ruined by that netizen and who knows what else, how can we, as fans, endanger the rest of the members' careers as well? I mean, the protests were good at first, but I think now, the dust is settled, and we need to support 2PM...It's what Jay would want. It's obvious that 2PM doesn't feel right about Jay's absence, with the obvious signs at the Dream concert, but there's nothing they can do about it. Boycott JYPE, not 2PM, they're completely separate...I mean, go to their concerts, but chant Jay's name non-stop...take Jay signs, and act as if he was there as well, to me, it seems like 2PM already does that with their performance at the Dream concert.
The boys worked hard to get to where they are, and we can't let them down. They're hurting more than we are, and there are plenty of other ways to show our disappointment in Jay's departure from the group, but we shouldn't take it out on the rest of the boys...they've gone through enough.
The Dream Concert, that 2PM was meant to perform in happened yesterday, I think, and 2PM couldn't cancel like many speculated, but their performance didn't get aired, due to the requests from the producers of the concert. 2PM still performed magnificently, even though it was their first performance without their leader. I was sad to watch just the 6 of them, but the performance was very bittersweet...because they left Jay's track in as they all sang live, and no one sang Jay's part, which was sad because he wasn't there, but it was good that no one replaced him. The best part was at the very end of Again & Again, where they normally pose, they left a nice spot open as if Jay were there...that's how it was bittersweet. It's sad that there will always be an empty spot there, but it was sweet of the boys to acknowledge that Jay will always be a part of their group. You can say so much, without using any words at all...and 2PM did just that.
During their I Hate You performance, if you pay close attention to Junho, Taec, and Junsu at around 17 seconds, you will notice something significant, my niece pointed this out to me...Junho points up to the sky...so you think, he's signifying the number one, then Junsu shows two of his fingers (very discreetly by the way), and then Taec shows off his four fingers proudly...Hmm, 1+2+4...what does that equal? Who still thinks 2PM is okay with Jay's absence? Because at the very end, the boys don't say "Thank You" like they usually do, not in Korean, not even in English, they all strongly and proudly shouted, "Jaebeom!" Gotta love these boys.
There's been so many new things unfolding, comments from Jay himself, his friends, JYP, even the 2PM boys have spoken, but it's hard to know who really is telling the truth and who is really speaking for themselves. A lot of fans don't know whether to believe comments left by Jay or Wooyung on their fan cafes, thinking it is the company's ploy to get fans to stop boycotting 2PM. I personally don't know what to believe anymore, I believe in what JYP said about Jay, I believe Jay left because it is what's best for him and that he needs the support from his family and friends, I believe he left because he had no choice (whether being pressured to leave, or leaving on his own accord), I believe 2PM is supporting Jay even though he left, and I believe in 2PM even though Jay is no longer a part of it.
You can read all the latest updates, and figure out for yourself which things you want to believe, I will always be posting my opinion on the matter because these boys are very dear to me, I will always support them no matter what happens, because I believe in them as a group, and as individuals. I will always hope and wish that Jay return's to be 2PM's rightful leader, but my thoughts are just that, hopes and wishes.
I don't want to do anything to hurt the rest of the members, because I love them, and they are suffering enough without Jay. This situation could've been avoided, but it happened, and everyone just needs to move forward. I choose to support all 7 members of 2PM, not JYP, not JYPE, not even 2AM...because 2PM were the first, and Korean artist that I will ever love.
I don't believe in the Korean music industry, allowing haters to control the lives of their idols...it is not a music industry, because they don't care about the music at all. They care about who they can take to the top, or tear down. Music is not about what someone said or did in their past, music is just that. You're supposed to be entertained, inspired by their hardwork, their talents, their music...
You're free to love or hate whoever you want, but it's when those emotions are acted upon that makes it a problem. If you love an artist, support them, if you hate an artist, don't support them. I mean, I have artists I dislike, but never could I be so cruel as to try to tear them down emotionally, or even ruin their career. I mean, look at the VMA's with Taylor Swift, I'm not a fan of hers at all, but she didn't deserve to be rudely interrupted by Kanye West when she was so excited about her award.
You're supposed to act on love, not hate. You're supposed to express love and suppress hate.
Do what you want, believe what you want...I will always have an opinion on this matter, and I will always express it. I may not be sure about how I feel about the situation or about the things that went down, but what I know for sure is that:
I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT PARK JAEBEOM, JANG WOOYUNG, NICKHUN HORVEJEKUL, LEE JUNHO, OK TAEKYEON, HWANG CHANSUNG, AND KIM JUNSU!!!!
I can't say if the above message is true or not, but I will say this...If I had to choose to believe JYP over someone who is Jay's friend, then I choose to believe in this message. I can't believe JYP is such a liar! Believing in JYP means having to accept that Jay will no longer be in 2PM, and I only chose to accept that because I felt it's what Jay wanted...but choosing to believe this note means that it wasn't what Jay wanted. It means Jay wants to be in 2PM but isn't allowed to, it means the rest of the guys want their leader back but can't get him back, and it means JYP is one big, fat, liar!!!
I only, finally chose to accept 2PM moving on as 6 members because I thought that it was Jay's choice to leave, and that he wants to do what's best for his group, not that he was forced to leave. Even most of the 2PM guys are silently supporting the protest, so maybe it wasn't wrong after all. I mean, it's hard to tell what's fact or pure fiction, but the only harm that can come out of this is not supporting 2PM without their leader, Jay. If this note isn't true, then all of the members, including Jay should be able to publicly state that it isn't...But if we boycott 2PM, and they don't do well, it won't be because we don't love them, it will only be because we love them too much and want to help them by letting them have their leader back.
It's hard to decide on what's true or not, so you decide for yourselves, but right now, I'm taking this message as being true and am super pissed about it. At first, I thought the boycotting and protests were bad, but if we HOTTESTS are the only way to bring Jay back, then continue with it! I refuse to believe JYP from now on...if this isn't true, then Jay should step up and clear things up for us. If he wants us to drop it and let him move on, then I for one will do that for him...but if he can't even comment on it, then I will continue to fight for him...That was my gut instinct to begin with, until JYP's official statement was released, of which I thought was true...I can't believe I was deceived. Now Wooyung's cryptic message makes so much more sense, and having their very first single as his background music seems like he's really trying to tell us something.
2PM member WooYoung changed the main post on his Cyworld minihompy. He wrote the words “死卽必生” and changed the background music of the minihompy to the instrumental version of the group’s debut song ‘10 points out of 10′. The phrase 死卽必生(사즉필생) comes from a part of General Lee Soon Shin’s famous saying ‘생즉필사(生卽必死) 사즉필생(死卽必生)’. It means “When you are set to live, you face death. If you are set to face death, you live”. This was adopted when he was in the MyeongRyang Sea Battle where he met victory with only 10 battleships over over his enemy with 10 times of the number of battleships that he has. It seems that WooYoung was using the phrase to talk about his feelings about the withdrawal of leader JaeBum. http://sookyeong.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/wooyoung-and-his-feelings-about-2pm-promoting-as-6-members-on-his-minihompy/
After much drama surrounding leader Jaebeom leaving 2PM, JYP has finally released an official statement regarding 2PM's future activities.
Unfortunately, 2PM will continue activities as 6-members, as JYP is stating that Jaebeom does not want to return as of now.
Whether Jaebeom not wanting to return is the truth or not, we have yet to hear. But as of now, 2PM will be 6 members.
Official statement:
Hello, this is JYP.
For the past five days we have listened to what many people had to say regarding the Jaebeom incident. We have listened to the rebukes towards Jaebeom, the rebukes toward our company, and many of you telling us to give him another chance has been carefully heard.
We have carefully and thoroughly discussed what the next moves are regarding our company, the 2PM members, and Jaebeom. Jaebeom has been receiving many encouraging comments from many fans, but his feelings about his wrong doings has still not changed. He still feels sorry and embarrassed for what he did and is not able to perform on stage. Jaebeom has pleaded to not cancel 2PM's activities which was the result of the sweat, blood and tears of the other six members, just because of what he has done. He has said this is the reason why he must leave 2PM.
I also agree with Jaebeom. The reason why i have not held on to Jaebeom is because if we look towards the life ahead of him, this will not be a big matter that will effect his whole life. Many of you are worried that he has wasted four years of training towards his dream, but i believe that training has not gone to waste, because if he grabs this chance to mature as a person, Jaebeom will be able to fly better than ever.
I believe that as harmful the words that came from Jaebeom were, telling him to immediately leave the country was no better. I am going to respect his decision / wish of wanting to spend some time alone, off the stage and if and when the time comes that he tells me he is ready to come back on stage and perform, it is my duty / role to do everything in my power to help him with this wish. When that day comes, I believe that's when your encouragements and cheering will truly help him. I am once again truly sorry and apologize for not being able to thoroughly take care of my artists. I will do my best in making sure things like this never happen again.
Park Jin Young has announced that 2PM will continue as 6 members without leader Park JaeBum. With 2PM promoting without JaeBum, fans have gone into a panic state and a further boycott.
Park Jin Young wrote on JYP Entertainment official homepage on 17th September, “JaeBum said that he cannot get back to the stage to perform because he is very sorry and embarrassed.”
Park Jin Young also added, “2PM will continue with their schedule as 6 members. We cannot comply with the demand for JaeBum’s withdrawal.”
“For those who are worried about the 4 years of training gone to waste, There will be other opportunities for JaeBum in the future since he has spend 4 years practising and he has the talents in him.”
And on various internet forum sites and fan sites, the message by JYP was posted up, and has caused an outroar amongst fans and netizens.
2PM will be promoting as 6 members – JunSu, TaekYeon, ChanSung, Nich Khun, JunHo and WooYoung from now.
Fans’ responses:
“We will boycott all activities of 2PM without JaeBum. I’m sorry to the other 2PM members, but we cannot support the group as 6 members.”
“(To the 2PM members) We are doing this for you. Really sorry but we will love the group as 7 members.”
“I cannot not support the group as 6 members”
“It is heartbreaking to just think about seeing them as just 6 members. I cannot support 6PM”
“I can’t bring myself to see them promote as 6 members”
“Park Jin Young said 2PM was his pride, now his pride has fallen”
“The mass public which Park Jin Young thought about did not include the 2PM fans who have been speaking as one voice”
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International Hottests Will Not Budge!
Hottests from around the world have joined hands to take a stand against JYP Entertainment! On the 17th at around 8AM, the many international fan sites of boy group 2PM sent in a "International 2PM Fan Union Statement" claiming that they will not budge until they receive a quick and definite response regarding the situation, clearly emphasizing their huge disappointment with the blithe way the company had treated Park Jaebeom's withdrawal. The sites have also declared that they will boycott all 2PM activities until their leader comes back to Korea, safe and sound. Check out that crazy dedication below!
cr: http://www.allkpop.com/index.php/full_story/international_hottests_will_not_budge/
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I don't know how they got international fans to agree to this, but I haven't agreed to anything yet. I'm so torn about this, I have no idea what to do next. Okay, I did start liking 2PM for just one person, but I grew to love and adore them all...Jay wasn't my top favorite, but I respected and admired him for being the leader of the group.
I have been incredibly sad over his leave, but it's understandable, and I can understand that maybe he thinks he isn't strong enough to deal with the pressure, so he doesn't want to drag the rest of his brothers down. I know Jay cares for and loves those 6 boys very much, he was their leader, their hyung, how could he not? I feel we need to respect his decision to leave, and hope that he will be able to do what he loves again, some day...but at the same time, support his decision. I feel that his decision to leave was both personal and professional, and when your professional life starts to step into your personal life, you do have to take a step back to reevaluate the situation, to collect yourself.
This situation should've never happened, but it did, and now we just need to move forward, for Jay and 2PM's sake. I love Wooyung, Junho, Nichkhun, Taec, Chansung, and even Junsu, and I can't bare to see them move forward without my support. I feel that JYP did all he could in regards to Jay, because when it comes down to it, it was Jay's decision to leave, and he respected that, and I respect him for it. At least I know he loves and feels for Jay, but there wasn't anything he could do to make him feel confident in performing. It wasn't Jay's fault, because to me, HE DID NOTHING WRONG. There was nothing he needed to apologize for, it's not like he's Kanye West, okay? I love those 2PM boys, and they are very hardworking, they've already lost a member, they shouldn't have to lose their fan base as well...
HOTTESTS: I know you mean well, but if you are a true fan, you will support them in whatever decision each guy makes when it comes to 2PM. It's their lives, and we have to respect the decision, because they're doing what's best for them. What's best for Jay is to get away from a negative country and be with his family, to rebuild himself, to be stronger...What's best for 2PM is to move on, because Jay's career isn't the only career at stake here, there are 6 others lives involved, and the reason Jay left was so his group, his brothers, could move forward, so we can't hold them back. I think Jay would appreciate that we still have him in our hearts, and that we will always see him as 2PM's leader, no matter what. We should appreciate JYP for letting 2PM move on with just 6 members, because it would literally be a slap in the face if he replaced Jay just like that. We should be there for the rest of the guys, we should support and love them, as always. Don't let them lose us too!!!
On this note, I wanted to talk about another subject, I'm just going on a tangent here, but it's still related.
Wikipedia definesfreedom of speech
as the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes used to indicate not only freedom of verbal speech but any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used. In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on "hate speech".
This amendment was made up for us to have a voice, not for it to be abused to do harm. I realize this online, that some people feel that just because it is the World Wide Web, they are free to do or say whatever they feel like, with no regards for other people. We have the freedom to voice our opinions on a topic, the freedom to express our emotions, that’s what I believe that freedom is for.
It definitely is not for people to scrutinize, criticize, or even bully others. I understand there are bloggers like Perez Hilton who says what he wants about celebrities and doesn’t care if it offends them, but those are his opinions…that’s fine. But it’s completely different to dig up someone’s past, take it out of context, and get a country to bash that celebrity for no reason. This is how this part of the blog ties in with Jay’s situation. Jay took responsibility for his actions and apologized for it, even though I felt the apology wasn’t necessary.
Some argue that Koreans are proud of their country, and were offended when one of their people said that “Korea is gay” and briefly talked about how he “hated Koreans”. The key point is that it was said between friends, it was on the internet, but it was a personal conversation between two close friends that understood each other. No one would’ve ever known Jay ever said that if someone didn’t dig it up. The only person to blame for this situation is the person that posted the statement, and yes, there is someone to blame, and it’s not Jay or even JYP. That person wasn’t blogging their opinion or even tried to inform anyone of anything, but they just wanted to cause trouble. That’s the only reason why someone would try to find dirt on someone.
The only thing S. Korea did was confirm Jay’s opinions from 4 years ago by their overreactions. Jay did the right, and noble thing, but S. Korea was unforgivable. I’m not saying the whole country, but 300,000 people petitioning for Jay to commit suicide, seems like it’s practically the whole country. Was that even necessary? It just seems like there are a definite 300,000 cruel human beings in this world that could possibly wish for someone to die when they didn’t even commit a single crime. There should be a law against these cruel acts. That is an abuse to the freedom of speech, and it should be a crime. The people in that country should’ve shown some understanding and mercy, but they didn’t. So Jay had no choice but to leave S. Korea, he was hated for no reason.
Well, to add on to that, some people feel that just by others posting things online, that means they have the right to say whatever they want to. The internet has no morals, no sense of right or wrong; it is the cyber world, but it’s more harmful than the actual world we live in. Children get exploited, predators find their prey, and people get bullied…Why is it more unsafe for a person to be on the internet, than for them to step out of their own house? Because humans are cowards, that’s why. We feel that it is easier to say or do things to someone on the internet because we don’t feel the repercussions of it, because words can be erased…but what about someone’s life? It seems with the internet, someone’s life can be easily deleted as a friend on MySpace. I mean that both literally and metaphorically.
Then there’s the other people who go on to others’ websites and just talk trash, feeling they could do or say whatever they want. But just because someone posts something on the internet, it doesn’t mean you have the right to plague their page with rude or disrespectful comments. That irritates the hell out of me when people do it to me or people I know. ACCESS TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO HARASS PEOPLE!!! It is the internet, but harassment is harassment…It’s so hard to ignore those kinds of people because they’re ALL over the internet. I wish they’d have the same audacity in the real world, and see how they deal with the consequences.
We have freedoms a lot of people don’t have, and our freedom of speech is one of them, but is often abused. The internet is such a useful piece of technology, but people just choose to abuse it instead.
Freedom is:
1.the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial.
2.exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
3.the power to determine action without restraint.
4.political or national independence.
5.personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom.
6.exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear.
7.the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
8.ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
9.frankness of manner or speech.
10.general exemption or immunity: freedom from taxation.
11.the absence of ceremony or reserve.
12.a liberty taken.
13.a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation: freedom to levy taxes.
14.civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
15.the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
16.the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will: to have the freedom of a friend's library.
Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination.
Freedom does not equal abuse. One of these days, there will be legal action to the people who use their freedom of speech to cause harm; they won’t get away with it forever. The law will catch up to technology; I hope it does sooner than later.
